Beeman P17 Deluxe Pellet Pistol with Red Dot

Amazing air pistol for the price. The best thing about this pistol is the trigger, very light and crisp, there are a lot of striker, and hammer fired guns out there that don't have a trigger this good. I cannot review the sight as I removed it, the fiber optic sights are good and the only negative thing about them is that they are bottomed out when I have it sighted in at 21 feet, still they are right on at that distance. I had trouble cocking it at first and then started putting the butt and front of the pistol on my shooting bench, holding the pistol in my left hand, while closing it with my right. Much easier than trying to close it with both hands. Accuracy is good and seemed to get better as I shot it, maybe that was just me getting used to it. I did get a pellet pen to help in loading it but found it to be of no use, after some practice loading was okay. I did try three types of pellets, Daisy pointed, RWS Diabolo, and Mount Joy. The RWS shot best but they all shot well and I found that the pointed daisy pellets loaded a little easier, but they would some times fall out of the barrel while closing it, if not done slowly and deliberately. The Diabolo's did not do this. The top of the pistol is a little large, but the butt and grip are perfectly sized for me and closely resemble the grip of a Walther M2 PPQ. I only have two tins of pellets shot through it as of now and there have been no problems. Overall a very nice air pistol for the price and one that exceeded my expectations..

First this is a great gun and worth every penny. Just watch some youtube videos on it first and do the suggested tweaks on it before you use it. Make sure to check the air chamber for burrs. Mine had none.The RED DOT: The one it comes with is useless, so if it saves you money, buy it without one and go pickup this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UI0VE2/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1or something similar. It has a dovetail groove molded into the upper with the barrel, not a weaver or picatinny.Accuracy: I have found mine to be very accurate. Shooting with Crosman Premium Waddcutters, the above Red Dot, and rested at 30 feet I get a variance of only about 3/4" in diameter. And some of that is probably me.Trigger: It is an adjustable 1 stage trigger. Since I shoot Bullseye I'm pretty use to short crisp 2.25lb trigger. To me this is a long pull. You can adjust the creep to being gone with the set screw in the trigger, I've read you can shorten the stroke on the main pull, but I have not done that yet. Pull wise it is not bad and it actually forced me to work on my trigger control.I find the grip of the gun to be good. The only thing I wish was different was the safety location. I wish it was above the trigger on the Right side. If your left handed you'll love it's location. Overall fit and finish of the gun is very good.I've had this pistol for 2 weeks and get to practice daily with this gun. My scores are going up.Update: After a little bit of adjustment, the trigger is crisp and very light. Great buy. Over 500 rounds through it so far and going strong.

This has been a very nice gun but there a few qualifiers and in that is the reason I docked it a star. The sight is useless in low light, it is blinding and in the way, I took it off as quickly as I put it on. The 11mm grooved top is sharp, it's great that it has one but for any practical use; you are going to have to dull it to a safe level. I used a hardened steel screwdriver and shaved some of the edge away, it took me a few minutes and it was usable. There's two problems dealt with. Next I found that at times I would cock it and it would refuse to fire, then repeat the process and it would, maybe. I found a too long video on YouTube where a person with the same problem found the answer. The spring inside the right handgrip shifts too far back and doesn't set the trigger when cocking. Another 10 minute fix later and it works, it works very, very well as a matter of fact. The fiber optic sights are great making a very easy sight picture, I added an old red dot sight I had to further define a point of aim but on this one; the open sights are good enough. The trigger is one of the best triggers I have ever used. I have owned and shot hundreds of guns and this trigger should cost more than the gun, it is in a class almost by itself, good enough to regard as target grade. The "fixed" gun is why I decided to put the additional optic on and it also helps with the considerable effort needed to cock the gun. Nearly the whole gun is metal, the only plastic I see are the sights which by the way are adjustable. This is physically the same as the Beeman P3, a gun which costs $200 more, it has a different country of manufacture and beyond that there's little difference. I don't even know for sure if the problems I mentioned are not present in the P3, hopefully for 7 times the cost they are not, however cleaning up the problems with this is simple and the gun itself is a very good normal person target grade pistol. Target in the photo was 5 shots at 10 yards.